Kathy Jones and Mike Townsend sit down with Nicole Petallides at the Charles Schwab IMPACT 2025 conference. Kathy makes the case that markets will see "no more rate cuts this year." She argues a lack of economic data from the government shutdown will make the Fed wary. Mike Townsend sees the shutdown ending soon, saying that travel woes heading into the holiday season will push lawmakers to come up with a plan soon. He also notes a "generational change" happening in the Democratic party after Nancy Pelosi announced her retirement.